\summary{2010}{11}{30} Agenda call: \agoref{gentoo-project}{02f133c3f1ef09e5ec04f055b5cf5ba7} Agenda announcement: \agoref{gentoo-project}{d5f9f86f7f8051379cc164207bf1f222} \agendaitem{Future meetings} \index{council!meeting!schedule} The council members have discussed internally alternating between Tuesdays and Saturdays, because \dev{halcy0n} can't do weekdays and \dev{chainsaw} can't do weekends. During the meeting it turned out that \dev{chainsaw} can attend on Saturdays, although the timing is then really hard for \dev{ferringb}. The council decided to have the next meeting on Saturday the 18th of December, at 1500 UTC. \dev{jmbsvicetto} will chair. We'll keep switching between Tuesdays and Saturdays for the time being to try and accomodate all members. \agendaitem{EAPI 4} \index{EAPI!4}\index{MERGING_FROM}\index{PMS} \index{REPLACED_VERSIONS}\index{REPLACED_BY_VERSION} \index{pkg_pretend}\index{EAPI!usage in ebulds}\index{EAPI!deprecation} The council agreed that the current EAPI-4_pre1 implementation is pretty good. Some clarifications concerning REPLACED_VERSIONS and REPLACED_BY_VERSION and the impact of the new pkg_pretend phase were discussed. \dev{ulm} will work on a PMS patch for EAPI-4. He will create a final tag, that will also include one extra feature, a variable called MERGING_FROM, available in pkg_* phases, with the following possible values: ["source","binary"]. The tag will then be approved by the council, either by email or in a meeting, whatever is faster. Our goal is to have EAPI-4 before 2010 ends. On a related note, a discussion about deprecating EAPIs and the QA recommendation on which EAPI to use for new ebuilds was started. \agendaitem{Libtool archive (.la) files removal status/progress} \index{.la files}\index{package!sys-devel/libtool} Nothing has happened since the last meeting. \dev{jmbsvicett} did start some mailing list threads, but there was no interest in the subject. The following needs to be done: \begin{enumerate} \item write documentation (with \dev{flameeyes}'s blog as source), \item publish a news item, \item get portage 2.1.9 stable, and \item let developers remove .la files. \end{enumerate} Since no-one volunteered to do step 1, the topic was pushed to the mailing lists.